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MEAT: Favorite Butchering, Grilling & Smoking Techniques

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Someone asked me offline about steak, so rather than replying in depth vis PM, I decided to make a new thread in the tap room.

There are 3 basic types of beef steak:

PREMIUM CUT(s): This is for excellent, highly flavorful & fatty cuts (Rib Eye, NY Strip, Porterhouse/T-Bone, Skirt), where the meat needs very little help. If it's a bit went and sloppy from being in plastic or cryovac, pat it dry, and let it rest overnight, unwrapped, in the fridge, on some paper towels ... that should help to firm it up a bit. For thick cuts, let the meat come up to temperature for 30-60 mins before grilling - this will enable you to maintain a nice wide zone of pink without having to overcook the exterior. Pat dry, sprinkle with garlic salt, rub (or spray) with olive oil, and season with black pepper. Grill over the high heat to form a crust, then open the lid and finish over low-med heat until desired doneness. Let rest several minutes (longer for thick cuts) before carving/serving.

INTERMEDIATE CUT(s): For good, but lean cuts (Flank Steak), where the meat needs only modest help. Use an unsweetened salty & acidic marinade, that adds flavor, but not so much that it competes with the meat. If the meat is very lean, you will need to wipe it dry after marinating and then oil it generously before grilling. For flank steak, you'll need to grill it fast over the highest possible heat (closed grill) in order to get a decent crust without overcooking it.

Here's a personal recipe:
Brad's Bourbon-Terriaki Flank Steak

· One Flank Steak (roughly 1.75 - 2 lbs)
· ½ fl oz Kentucky Bourbon
· ¼ cup Terriaki Sauce (use slightly less for multiple steaks)
· ½ Lime, fresh juice of
· ½ tsp Garlic Paste

1. MEAT: Peel membrane off flank steak (marinate penetrates better), along w/any remaining 'silver skin' (prevents curling), trim off excess fat (prevents flareups), and pat dry. If you have the time, and if the meat seems overly soggy (too long in supermarket plastic), air-dry it for a few hours in the fridge, to firm up a bit.
2. MARINATE: Rub meat with a light coating of bourbon (which adds flavor as well as being a bacterial inhibitor), then mix the rest of the marinade together. Add steak to a plastic bag (if doing multiple steaks, use a hotel pan), and add marinade. Massage gently, to ensure good contact between marinade & meat. Once coated, excess marinade can be decanted and discarded, to prevent the steak from getting too waterlogged (you want the steaks well dampened with the marinade - not swimming in it). Let rest in fridge for several hours, but not overnight (prolonged contact with lime juice can discolor and partially cook the surface of the meat). Remove from fridge 30-60 mins before grilling, to allow the meat to come up towards room temperature - this allows you to cook it faster and hotter to the correct doneness, while retaining a wider zone of pink ... which is important since flank steaks are thin and somewhat easy to overcook.
3. GRILL: Drain steaks, rub lightly with olive oil, let come up to temperature for 30 mins, and cook roughly 3-5 mins per side over HIGH heat on a well-oiled CLOSED grill, until the thick end is rare or med-rare (the thinner end will range from medium to med-well, and the tips will be well). Let rest on a trencher board for 10 mins before slicing. Placing a few slices of bead (or extra buns) downhill from the meat will absorb juices shed during resting & carving - the juice soaked bread is a fought over item.
4. CARVE: When the steak is warm (but no longer hot and running with juices), begin carving. If necessary, stabilize the cutting board by putting either a dish towel or a dampened paper towel underneath it ... then dress your carving knife. Start at the thinnest end, slice thinly across grain, on a 30-40 degree vertical bias (wider slices = less carving). Arrange on serving tray, with the most well-done meat at one end, and getting progressively rarer at the other. A slice of bread at one end will prevent juices from pooling.
5. SERVE: Serve in hotdog buns, with whatever condiments you desire (I like a little ketchup, some people like HP steak sauce). Traditional side dishes are corn on the cob (with clarified butter), diced garden tomatoes, and macaroni salad.
ECONOMY CUT(s): For thicker/tougher/leaner cuts (London Broil) that need extra flavor & tenderizing enzyme action, and a sugar component for better crust formation. You can use a simple pre-bottled steak marinade, and let marinate (in a sealed ziplock bag) for 4-48 hours (the longer, the better). Drain the marinade off the meat, and boil the excess marinade for several minutes until sterilized, reduced and thickened into a BBQ glaze - while the steak comes up to temperature. Slap the steak onto a pre-heated and well oiled grill. Grill over HIGH heat, closing the lid if necessary, to aid crust formation. After turning, brush the grilled sides with the glaze, and turn several more times, brushing each time, until the meat reaches desired doneness and a savory crust has formed. Turn the heat down if the glaze begins to scorch. Remove from heat and let rest for 5-10 mins until luke warm, then slice on bias and use the leftover glaze as steak or dipping sauce.

If you prefer to make your own steak marinade, here's a simple, but imprecise recipe. It's basically cupboard & refrigerator pot luck:

Mix all of the following in whatever ratio suits you:

* A1, or whatever steak sauce you have handy (Hoisin is fine too)
* Soy (or Teriyaki) Sauce
* Coarse Dijon Mustard w/w.wine
* Ketchup (or Tomato puree/sauce/juice)
* Balsamic Vinegar
* Fresh Garlic Paste
* Salt & Cracked Pepper

Follow the directions above for marinating and grilling.
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Sounds yummy :thumb:

However, I usually buy premium steaks (so I don't eat steak very often :wink: but if you're gonna eat a steak, you should eat the best, or so I think), which need little or no help, and do much as you do: rub 'em with olive oil (or whatever vegetable oil I happen to have handy) and lay on the black pepper. Typically, it turns out wonderfully. :)

As for pork and chicken, I have a marinade I devised, which is pretty good. Unfortunately, I know what goes in it but really couldn't tell you how much of everything goes in it. I'm bad like that...a rather poor teacher.... But anyway, I'll list the ingredients...and maybe someday I'll set down and figure out the proper amounts... :roll:

Ryan's Marinade:

Open Pit barbecue sauce
Vietmanese Garlic Chili Sauce--very good stuff BTW
Whatever whiskey, bourbon, or beer I happen to have handy
Soy sauce
vinegar--usually red wine, though I've used apple or plain old white
Real maple syrup or honey or mollasses--whatever's handy
cayenne pepper
black pepper
olive oil
mustard--I've been using jalepeno mustard lately
A dash of salt
And I think that's about all

I just sorta start with the Open Pit (I love that stuff!) and start adding the other ingredients, and then whisk them all together. After that, I put my chicken or pork in an old roasting pan and pour the marinade over top, put on the lid and stick it in the fridge--usually overnight, though sometimes I fudge a bit :wink: Anyway, it always turns out awesome! You don't even have to use BBQ sauce, though I do...

Well, that's about all I can think of at the moment...
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Post by Darb »

Good stuff.

However, for anything less than party size quantities, I find it helpful to marinate in plastic ziploc bags ... you often need only 50% as much marinade that way, and you can get better contact with the meat by squeezing all the air out of the bag after you add the meat and marinade. All you have to do thereafter is turn the bag over once every few hours.

Also, for chicken, plain old italian dressing is pretty good.

/me pencils a reminder to talk about dry aging (meat) & ripening (cheese) at home sometime ...
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Yeah, I use Italian Dressing, too--when I'm feeling lazy :mrgreen:

And I've thought of using the ziplock bags, after your mention of them...but everytime I go to the store, I seem to forget to buy any :roll:
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The baggies work really well ... quart size for 1-2 people, gallon size for 3-6 people. Saves on dishes too. :thumb:
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I'll try to remember...though I'm sure I'll forget, as I always do. :crazy:
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On a whim, I picked up a pair of pork shoulders (14 lbs total) on my way home from work Friday ... at $0.99/lb US, they were cheap, as are most cuts that are tough, inconvenient, and requiring a modicrum of skill to prepare. My premise for doing so was to get practice with cooking large whole bone-in joints of meat, in preparation for my next big outdoor BBQ.

There's something primal about cooking such things, and if you havent seen the look of culinary lust on people's face whenever they walk past your yard while your're basting a large haunch of meat wreathed in aromatic woodsmoke, then you havent really lived as a cook. :twisted:

I took a few pictures, but it may be a while before I use up the rest of the roll, so people will have to be patient. :)

Anyway, here's an overview of what I did with them. I can C&P a more detailed recipe from my culinary log for anyone who wishes it.

Brad's Cola-Marinated Smoked Pork Shoulders
* Rinse & drain 2 bone-in "picinic" pork shoulders, 6-8 lbs each.
* Dissolve 2 cups kosher salt into 4 liters pepsi or coca cola.
* Immerse pork, flesh side down, into the cola-brine, and refrigerate overnight.
* Drain, pat dry, slash 1" diamonds into the rind, and generously apply the pork dry rub of your choice (being careful not to use more than 1 tbs sugar, which can scorch during cooking).
* Let rest uncovered for several hours in fridge, then for the final 90 mins at room temperature, to shed cold.
* Smoke in a water smoker for 6-8 hours, at roughly 250 - 275F (the slower, the better - if you can go slower, do 10-12 hours) ... basting every 30-45 mins with your favorite mop sauce (I just use softened onions & lemon wedges, coca cola and oil ... all simmered together). Add mesquite chips as needed for smoke.
* Remove meat from smoker when the inside reaches 170F, wrap securely with foil, and then with heavy towels, and let rest 1-2 hrs.
* Discard rind and excess fat, debone roasts, and slice meat against grain.
* Serve with corn, fresh cole slaw, and your favorite condiment sauce for pork or ribs (it's a bit sweet, but this will do in a pinch ... boil until thickened the following - 1 cup orange juice, 1 pint brown sugar, 4 star anise pots, 3" piece cinnamon, 1 dried crumbled cayenne pepper).

Good stuff ... the cola makes a great brine and mop sauce both, since it has all the key components (flavor, acidity and sugar ... all you need is the salt for the former, and oil for the latter) :thumb:

I havent tried deboning the meat before smoking it - I'm sure it'd brine better, and take up more smoke flavor, but I also suspect it might lose lose too much juice during cooking, and tend towards dryness ... even with diligent mopping. I may have to try it, just to test that.

In any case, I have a few more large cuts I'd like to try smoking, now that I've done pork shoulder:

* Whole bone-in loin of pork
* Standing 5-Rib Roast of Beef
* Whole saddle cut of Goat or Lamb
* Cedar Plank Salmon
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Charcoal Tip:

I've discovered that it's possible to get a large charcoal fire going in a fraction of the usual 30-40 minutes time, without using lighter fluid.

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I sit 2 heaping starter chimneys (see picture above) of large chunk hardwood charcoal (not the small briquettes pictured) on my outdoor coleman stove, fire up the twin 100k BTU burners at about half power, and simply burn the heck outta them for 5-7 minutes until they're glowing bright red all the way up to within a single layer of coal on the top ... then dump em right into my weber smoker.

Viola - an entire weber grill's worth of red-hot coals in 5 mins flat ... no muss, no fuss, no newspapers, no stinky lighter fluid, no waiting. Works like a charm.

Yet another reason to own a cajun cooker - if you dont already have one. :thumb:

Note - my smoker requires a double load of charcoal. A standard weber needs only half as much as I use, so 1 chimney's worth is usually just right.
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I'm glad to see that you listed Skirt steak under Premium Cuts, Brad. I only wish that the rest of the world hadn't come to its senses and agree with you. I remember a time when it was so much cheaper- now I buy as much as I can fit in the freezer when it is on sale (very rarely). Definitely my favorite cut of beef, and it is sooo much better on the grill, as opposed to something like a Delmonico, which benefits more from the 'sear it in a pan' method. I highly recommend using a simple dry rub (s&p, cumin, paprika) and then placing the hot steak, when done, in a baking dish lined with a chimichurri sauce (almost like a garlic/ parsley pesto) to just release the aromatics without cooking it. A real summertime treat.

(btw- the reason a skirt steak is so flavorful is that it ages faster than the rest of the side of beef. It's the flap of meat on the underside of the rib cage and sort of hangs there by itself, drying out at a faster rate resulting in a more concentrated flavor. My only hope is that the butchers don't start putting them on the market before they're ready.)

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My Father's Day gift to myself was to roast a duckling (6 lbs) on the grill, adding mesquite chips at 15 min. intervals. It wasn't a true smoked duck, but it was wonderful nonetheless. My old grill managed to maintain 400F with one side turned off (the side with the duck in a roasting pan) which pleasantly suprised me. The skin was crispy and the meat was succulent and flavorful. There are three duck roasting tricks whether you do it in the oven or not: 1- allow the duck to dry out in the fridge for a day, uncovered, on a rack, 2- separate the skin from the meat before cooking, and 3- poke the skin of the back with a fork repeatedly to let the fat drain out while cooking.

I don't have a smoker, but my technique on the propane dinosaur (I swear this thing is at least 15 years old, but still works perfectly) - one side on, one side off- has yielded amazing results with rib roasts, veal roasts, you name it. It's definitely not BBQ because I'm aiming for medium rare meats, but the flavor/ effort ratio is fairly high.
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Speak of the devil ... Fairway on Manetto Hill Road has 3-5 lb bags of Skirt Steaks on sale for something like $2.99 - 3.99/lb. Since I have a vaccum sealer, I was planning on picking up about 10 lbs worth, and freezing for use throughout the summer.

Totally agreed how skirt steaks, and flank steaks, used to be so much cheaper 1-2 decades ago. Back then, the only places using them were chinese, korean and mexican restaurants.

As it is, the price is being pushed higher still due to foreign demand ... particularly in asia.
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I took advantage of the sale I mentioned above last night, and picked up 2 large cryovac bags on my way home, totalling about 13 lbs of skirt steaks at $3.69/lb. Good deal - esp since they were already reasonably clean and pre-peeled. :thumb:

I rinsed & re-trimmed them enough to be grill-ready before leaving for work this morning, and now they're air-drying in a large hotel pan in my fridge until I can vaccum-seal & freeze em tonite in 3 lb portions.

I'd have done it all last night, except that I stopped by my favorite sushi place on my way home from the market, and had a few sakes. Sharp knives, alcohol, and not enough sleep is an unsafe combo. :roll:
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I'm taking advantage of a "rain check" on a previous sale, plus a coupon, to nab about 15 lbs of skirt steaks (already peeled & well trimmed) for what'll work out to be around $3.50/lb ... which isn't too bad, for supermarket prices (about 1/2 price).

I'll grill off about 5 lbs worth, and vaccum seal and freeze the rest, in 3 lb portions, for labor day grilling ... skirt steaks freeze wonderfully well, without their texture being affected too much (unlike other cuts of steak).

It was a tossup between that, and $5.39/lb for whole Fillet Mignon (already peeled and trimmed), which is also a pretty good price.
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The Walbaums in my area (one of our local supermarket mega-chains) has choice-grade bone-in whole rib of beef (16-20 lbs in cryovac) on sale this week for $3.99/lb US, which is a pretty decent price.

I may have to pick one up, break it down, and dry age it for a few days (to firm it up & mature it) ... cut half into 2" steaks, and freeze them, and use the rest for a 3-4 rib standing roast.
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Woo hoo ... a local butcher in my area just posted a flyer adertising choice-grade fully trimmed boneless rib-eye roast for $3.99 :banana:

You just *KNOW* what I'm gonna be eatin later this week :smokin:

I've been dying to try that in the smoker too - unfortunately, it sounds like this coming weekend will be very wet with the remanants of Ivan. :(
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Well, I wasn't impressed with the quality of the rib-eyes, so I got a 9lb leg of lamb.

I'll bone it out tonite, butterfly it, give it a marinade, and then grill it off tomorrow morning before going to work. Comes out great - you slice it just like london broil.

If anyone wants a sample marinade recipe, lemme know.
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Lamb, Leg - Grilled Boneless Asian Marinated (BBQ)

Origin: Adapted from S. Raichlen's "The Way to Grillâ€
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Skip the optional glaze - it's fine without it.

As for the fat - because there's a generous amount of oil in the marinade, you can remove all of it if you wish. However, a small amount of grilled lamb fat is actually very tasty, and very edible.
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Steak: Sirloin, Porterhouse, Fillet Mignon

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Brad wrote: patience ... one thing at a time.

Pick a cut, and ask me over in the tap room, and I'll gladly start talking on it, as time permits. :mrgreen:
One thing I like to have at home is Sirloin Steak, but whenever we have it, it doesn't end up all that great.

So yeah, just wondering for tips and stuff. :)


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Sirloin's not my favorite cut ... for steaks, I like meat from the short loin ... aka as "delmonico" or "NY Strip" steak, or, if you go further forward on the bull, from the small end of the "rib eye" area.

[EDIT: ok, different countries use different terminology ... I assume you're referring to the same cut as I am ... which is the part above and to either side of the middle/lower back of the bull - just like a porterhouse is cut from the short loin, and has equal parts of tenderloin on one side, and strip/delmonico steak on the other ?]
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^bump^ post revised ... reread :)
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Brad wrote:Sirloin's not my favorite cut ... for steaks, I like meat from the short loin ... aka as "delmonico" or "NY Strip" steak.

[EDIT: ok, different countries use different terminology ... I assume you're referring to the same cut as I am ... which is the part above and to either side of the middle/lower back of the bull - just like a porterhouse is cut from the short loin, and has equal parts of tenderloin on one side, and strip/delmonico steak on the other ?]
I can confirm that what ECM refers to as SIrloin is not called that here - but I'll be blowed if I can recall what it is called.

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Ok, if you go to this link and scroll down, you'll see a fairly decent overview of the pr=emium steak-cuts in US nomenclature.

What I'm referring to is "Delmonico" or "NY Strip" from the "Top Loin" of the "Short Loin" region, aka the large half of a standard "Porter house" cut, which is half NY Strip, and half "Tenderloin/Fillet Mignon", depending on which side of the spinatus bone you look at.
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My preferred way to do NY Strip (aka "Delmonico Steak") is as follows:

* By an entire Short Loin primal cut (or as large a section as you can easily find/afford).
* Dry age it in the fridge for 4-6 days, or until it just starts to darken - which allows the flavor to mature, the testure to tenderize a bit, and for the meat to shed about 10-15% of it's weight by controlled evaporation (keep it loosely tent it with foil, in a hotel pan, atop paper towels that are changed daily)
* When ready to cook, separate it into the Top Loin on one side and the Fillet Mignon on the other. Reserve the latter for another use. Remove all fat and silver skin from the former, and divide crosswise into as many 1.5+" thick steaks as you need, and return the rest to the fridge, for separate use.
* Let meat come up to cool room temperature for 30-60 mins. This allows for a wider zone of pink and higher cooking temperatures ... and the meat stays moister because you dont have to overcook the esterior in order to get the interior done.
* Season generously with kosher salt and lots of freshly cracked/ground pepper (you want a nice and savory crust)
* Heat a large cast iron griddle until water dances.
* Sear steak on both sides over high heat (No Oil - you want a natural crust to form, and oil inhibits that) until dark brown and crispy on the surface.
* Reduce heat to medium, and continue cooking, turning occasionally, until meat reaches desired doneness ("black & blue" extra rare, classic "rare" or med-rare ... but no more or you're just ruining the steak)

Remove from grill and let rest for 5 mins to let meat relax.

Serve with "Horseradish Cream" (recipe follows)
Ingredients
1 pint Whole Sour Cream + Mayo (3:1 blend)
6 fl oz jar Hot White Horseradish (drained & squeezed lightly)
(to taste) Salt & Freshly Ground Black Pepper

Directions:
· Mix all ingredients, adjust salt and pepper to taste, and serve with crusty rare premium steak ... the classic pairing is griddle-blackened Fillet Mignon or NY Strip w/peppercorns.
There you have it. :worship:

p.s. I use the same recipe for Fillet Mignon steaks ... only you have to belt those with butcher's twine before grilling them, to prevent them from splitting, and looking like overcoooked 'scallops' :P

p.p.s. Sorry about the sloppy typing and spelling ... I've had a few drinks already :P

p.p.p.s. Kilt - I may do strip steaks for memorial day come spring ... if you're still in country then, I'll be sure to invite you and the lovely lady.
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I think perhaps I'll merge this onto a related thread ...

... MERGE COMPLETED :thumb:
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I posted a review of Bruce Aidells Complete Book of Pork ... further down there's a nice recipe for marinated grilled porkchops that's very tasty.
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