LMB Quote Game

[Caroline Tredez]

Hope you all had a good week-end ^^.

Here's the next quote :

"Y'know," [...] "if you'd quit while you were winning, right after XXX, we'd be on our way home right now."

Speaker, listener, book, and +1/2 point if you manage to guess exactly XXX without looking in the book.

[voralfred]

Hope you all had a good week-end ^^.

Here's the next quote :

"Y'know," [...] "if you'd quit while you were winning, right after XXX, we'd be on our way home right now."

Speaker, listener, book, and +1/2 point if you manage to guess exactly XXX without looking in the book.

Well, we had a rather rainy week-end, in fact, reading and watching TV...

Since you dare me, a plunge with a blind guess:

Ivan to Miles in _WA_, XXX is Oser giving up and offering peace to Miles, the end of the Tau Verde war.

(why do I have the feeling this is NOT the answer ?)

[Caroline Tredez]

Because you're beginning to know me

Still, a hint : one of your three guesses was right

[voralfred]

I have the answer, but my access to the web is limited, so I offer the next quote to the first player who wants to give a new one as soon as Caroline confirms. Caroline should respect the five-days exclusion rule on that new quote and I am forbidden to answer it altogether and will respect the five-days exclusion on the one after that one, instead of the player who posts next. If noone offers a new quote for five days after Caroline confirms, then she is allowed to offer a new quote herself, with the usual five-days exclusion on the one after hers.

Book: Cryoburn
Speaker: Roic
Listener: Miles (that was the correct part of my first guess)

I did more or else guess Roic was referring to Miles' success against WhiteChrys and was complaining about his involvement with New Egypt about Jin and his mother, but I did look for it in the book to be sure, so I don't deserve the bonus.

[Caroline Tredez]

I confirm, of course Next quote up for grabs, whoever wants a go may post one.

By the way, I found again my list of quotes : hasn't been updated since June 2012 ^^' Oops.

[orchestrali]

Argh, I should have guessed that one! I'd have been right! Well, as punishment for myself I will offer a new quote (see, now I'm delaying my next opportunity for a Sherlock).

"Mm," said XXX in a judicious tone, "though it does make it easy to be a recluse. If you're repulsive enough, people spontaneously avoid you."

Book?
XXX?
Listener?
Method of making oneself repulsive?

Let's try a bonus. I can think of two other instances of characters attempting to repel people using the same method under discussion in this quotation. They did have other reasons for using this method, but I think being repulsive was one of their goals. There may be more instances that I've forgotten. So, a half point for giving one of these, with character, book, and a little context.

[voralfred]

Argh, I should have guessed that one! I'd have been right! Well, as punishment for myself I will offer a new quote (see, now I'm delaying my next opportunity for a Sherlock).

For your altruism, orchestrali, to delay your opportunity to win a sherlock for the superior good of the collectivity, namely the prompt continuation of the game, I give you my sincere thanks !

"Mm," said XXX in a judicious tone, "though it does make it easy to be a recluse. If you're repulsive enough, people spontaneously avoid you."

Book?
XXX?
Listener?
Method of making oneself repulsive?

Let's try a bonus. I can think of two other instances of characters attempting to repel people using the same method under discussion in this quotation. They did have other reasons for using this method, but I think being repulsive was one of their goals. There may be more instances that I've forgotten. So, a half point for giving one of these, with character, book, and a little context.

Argh! I know this one but I punished myself by promising not to answer it at all, even after 5 days.
But this does not apply to the bonus, and I have already remembered one instance.
Since the bonus is a spoiler, I'll have to wait for the main answer to be given by someone else, but any instance of the bonus that I can remember till then, that is not given together with the main answer, I reserve the right to post.

[E Pericoloso Sporgersi]

The previous four posts state conditions for permissions, restrictions, punishments and bonuses.
May I suggest to award a half bonus point to anyone who fully understands it?

[voralfred]

EPS, why don't you just try your chance on this one? If you guess it right, but don't get the bonus, this will allow me to get it...

(...)

"Mm," said XXX in a judicious tone, "though it does make it easy to be a recluse. If you're repulsive enough, people spontaneously avoid you."

Book?
XXX?
Listener?
Method of making oneself repulsive?

Let's try a bonus. I can think of two other instances of characters attempting to repel people using the same method under discussion in this quotation. They did have other reasons for using this method, but I think being repulsive was one of their goals. There may be more instances that I've forgotten. So, a half point for giving one of these, with character, book, and a little context.

[E Pericoloso Sporgersi]

"Mm," said XXX in a judicious tone, "though it does make it easy to be a recluse. If you're repulsive enough, people spontaneously avoid you."

Book?
XXX?
Listener?
Method of making oneself repulsive?

Let's try a bonus. I can think of two other instances of characters attempting to repel people using the same method under discussion in this quotation. They did have other reasons for using this method, but I think being repulsive was one of their goals. There may be more instances that I've forgotten. So, a half point for giving one of these, with character, book, and a little context.

why don't you just try your chance on this one?

Well, okay, as no restrictions, punishments or dire warnings apply to me (I think), I'll give it a go.

Book = Barrayar
XXX = Aral
Listener = Cordelia
Method of making oneself repulsive = remain permanently unkempt and drunk

bonus attempts:

1. Mark Vorkosigan stuffs himself to become repulsively obese (in Mirror Dance).

2. Lieutenant Ahn, the weatherman of Camp Permafrost, keeps constantly drunk, aiming to be left alone as much as possible (in The Vor Game).

3. Miles himself when he's really depressive, goes on a binge, until Ivan and Duv dunk him in a tub of icy cold water (in Memory).

[Caroline Tredez]

I suspect you got all 4 bonuses, but not the main one yet ^^.

[E Pericoloso Sporgersi]

I suspect you got all 4 bonuses, but not the main one yet ^^.

Ah, yes, of course.

Book = Barrayar
XXX = Cordelia
Listener = Aral
Method of making oneself repulsive = remain permanently unkempt and drunk

[orchestrali]

Oh, this is very entertaining. Caroline is right, EPS—you've gotten one of the bonuses I was thinking of and one other that counts, but not the main quote. Haha.

To be precise, the quotation is not from Barrayar. Getting drunk *is* the particular repulsive behavior here, so that scene—oh wait, it's not in Barrayar either! Well, if you can give me a little more context besides Aral being drunk you'll get that bonus.

As for the other attempts:

1. I asked for instances of characters using the same repulsive behavior, namely drunkenness, so this doesn't count. Hmm, otherwise it'd be perfect, wouldn't it?

2. Ooh, nice! I didn't think of that one. +1/2.

3. Well...he doesn't actually drink anything. And I don't think he cares enough to want to be repulsive. Being repulsive takes work!

Keep guessing! Voralfred was right; the bonuses are spoilery, so this should help.

[voralfred]

Well, I know the main answer, (which I promised never to post) and I know the exact details of the bonus that EPS thought was the main answer (but he will probably straighten it out).
But the second bonus I have remembered was Ahn, which is not the second one orchestrali has in mind...
So there is a third one... Hmmmm.....
I think I'd better think it out again...

[voralfred]

Well, I just thought of a third one. Since the cat is already out of the bag, namely, it is known that the repulsive behavior was overdrinking, the following attempt on the bonus is not spoilery. So I have a non-candidate and a serious candidate.
Ivan does drink a lot, and occasionally too much, but ivan is essentially a seducer, if he overdrinks it is never to be too repulsive.
But Gregor... In "Vor Game" when he is found by Miles on Jackson, tells him how he fell off a balcony on Komarr (or, rather, climbed down, or a mixture of both). Gregor admitted: ""Yes. I was a little drunk."
But Miles thought: You were a lot drunk.
Is this the case you had in mind, orchestrali ? (or do you admit it as one more valid bonus ?)

[E Pericoloso Sporgersi]

Hmm, I can't remember all that many characters who would want to purposefully be repulsive by excessive drinking.

1. Aral after the Escobar debacle,

2. Mark, after bungling the Bharaputra raid,

3. Ivan, hiding in a bower with a bottle, to indulge in a spot of self-pity,

4. Lt. Ahn, as mentioned in previous posts,

5. Vormoncrief after being dressed down by Gregor.

I have no idea where the quoted conversation can have occurred.

I'm afraid the cat's got my tongue (j'ai donné ma langue au chat).

[orchestrali]

Voralfred:
No, I wasn't thinking of Gregor. I tend to forget about that too, since it happens off-page. But you know, I think I will count it. I wasn't going to, because it seemed that he actually found his sober self repulsive and was trying to escape that. But that's pretty much true for all the other instances—Aral, Ahn, the main quote, the bonus no one's got yet...

EPS:
You're right; not many characters drink excessively on page. Your no. 1 is one of the bonuses I was looking for, so I will grant you 1/2 point for that!

Everyone:
There is still another bonus—I will just say that it's a fairly minor character. Sort of like Ahn, actually. As for the main quote....it's a rather prominent example of an important character drinking excessively. Caroline, are you just waiting til your five days are up, or are you stumped too?

Here's the quote again, so you don't have to scroll up:

"Mm," said XXX in a judicious tone, "though it does make it easy to be a recluse. If you're repulsive enough, people spontaneously avoid you."

[voralfred]

Well, there is Arde Mayhew, locked up in his ship, drinking "crème de meth", which does contain a lot of alcohol, but the real reason is not for the oblivion alcohol gives, on the contrary, it is for the kick of the "meth" to keep awake, so this should not count, really...
But clearly there is another case concerning a main character.

[voralfred]

Or Bothari ?
In Barrayar, on one occasion, Bothari visits a whorehouse with Koudelka, and though he usually has just one drink there,

Bothari was by this time pretty thoroughly tanked.

But I am not sure it counts. Does Bothari needs drinking to be repulsive ? Probably not....

(…)
Here's the quote again, so you don't have to scroll up:

"Mm," said XXX in a judicious tone, "though it does make it easy to be a recluse. If you're repulsive enough, people spontaneously avoid you."

Another 24 hours and you can answer, Caroline, since obviously you recognized the quote....

[orchestrali]

I was thinking of Arde Mayhew! Yes, I suppose it was a stimulant, but he didn't seem very stimulated, did he? I mean, he was clearly a mess and didn't want people coming near him. I think staying awake added to his repulsiveness! So, another half point for voralfred. Since it's less than a day before Caroline can answer the main quote, I think I'll wait to post it in case I can do more at the same time.

[voralfred]

Well, since now Caroline can post, I can propose also this spoiler bonus.

I misunderstood EPS's first attempt

(...)
Book = Barrayar
XXX = Aral
Listener = Cordelia
Method of making oneself repulsive = remain permanently unkempt and drunk
(...)

What he really meant was this

Book = Barrayar
XXX = Cordelia
Listener = Aral
Method of making oneself repulsive = remain permanently unkempt and drunk

namely, Aral heavily drinking in Vorkosigan Surleau, thinking he'd never see Cordelia again, till she actually arrived.

Hmm, I can't remember all that many characters who would want to purposefully be repulsive by excessive drinking.

1. Aral after the Escobar debacle,
(...)

But I was thinking of another bonus, and I am surprised that it is not one of orchestrali's initial list.

Indeed this bonus is very closely related to the main question, same book, same speaker, same listener, same discussion, very shortly after the main quote. But a different event, an old recollection, told by XXX to the listener in connection with the present situation. Indeed this is why XXX can speak in such a "judicious tone" : in the quote the listener was the drinker, and here XXX recollects a time when he was the drinker, so he knows all about it!
I'm putting an option on this bonus, but only when the quote is found should it be counted.

[orchestrali]

Oh yeah!! I know what you're talking about! I never made that connection. Of course now it seems so obvious! Hmmm, I don't know about counting that as a bonus...it's all backstory. We don't really get to see it. I'll have to think about that...

[voralfred]

Well, really, I can't see why this case should not count. It falls squarely on the definition of "drinking to be repulsive".
But maybe I was not clear enough about what I meant by "an option": if the player who answers the main quote proposes the bonus in the same post, then the bonus should go to this player. Otherwise it should go to me rather than to a third party who guesses it thanks to the correct answer to the main question and my spoiler.
But on the other hand, I am not sure I should get a bonus for Arde. He drank "crème de meth" essentially to stay awake, really...

(...)

"Mm," said XXX in a judicious tone, "though it does make it easy to be a recluse. If you're repulsive enough, people spontaneously avoid you."

Book?
XXX?
Listener?
Method of making oneself repulsive?

Let's try a bonus. I can think of two other instances of characters attempting to repel people using the same method under discussion in this quotation. They did have other reasons for using this method, but I think being repulsive was one of their goals. There may be more instances that I've forgotten. So, a half point for giving one of these, with character, book, and a little context.

[orchestrali]

Where has everyone gone? Have things come up or did I succeed in stumping you all? Except for voralfred, who barred himself from answering...I suppose I will give an expansion. I do WANT the quote to be guessed after all!

"A life in ruins with vomiting is still a life in ruins."
"Mm," said XXX in a judicious tone, "though it does make it easy to be a recluse. If you're repulsive enough, people spontaneously avoid you."

Book?
XXX/second speaker?
First speaker?
Since we know the method of making oneself repulsive, how about giving the reason for this mess?

[E Pericoloso Sporgersi]

... did I succeed in stumping you all?

Yes.