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Sorry, wrong thread (edited)
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Still pending?
Then I'll propose "Portnoy's Complaint" by Philip Roth.
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NO!! not even close!! What were you thinking? Philip Roth?!?

Just kidding... you've got it.
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XXX
How beautiful is the YY1 YY2 tonight!
ZZZ
Look at the moon. How strange the moon seems! She is like a woman rising from a tomb. She is like a dead woman. One might fancy she was looking for dead things.

This is a play. I hid the name (well, not names really, they are minor characters with a "job description" rather than an actual name) of the two first characters to speak, as well as that of the character spoken of, as these would be too obvious clues. YY1 is the title of the character named YY2, hence the article

In a published edition, a rather longish paragraph of stage directions comes before the first line actually uttered by a character, but I deleted it for being an obvious clue, too. These are the two first lines uttered onstage.
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A longer quote:
XXX
How beautiful is the YY1 YY2 tonight!
ZZZ
Look at the moon. How strange the moon seems! She is like a woman rising from a tomb. She is like a dead woman. One might fancy she was looking for dead things.
XXX
She has a strange look. She is like a little YY1 who wears a yellow veil, and whose feet are of silver. She is like a YY1 who has little white doves for feet. One might fancy she was dancing.
ZZZ
She is like a woman who is dead. She moves very slowly.
voralfred wrote: This is a play. I hid the name (well, not names really, they are minor characters with a "job description" rather than an actual name) of the two first characters to speak, as well as that of the character spoken of, as these would be too obvious clues. YY1 is the title of the character named YY2, hence the article

In a published edition, a rather longish paragraph of stage directions comes before the first line actually uttered by a character, but I deleted it for being an obvious clue, too. These are the two first (four first, now) tlines uttered onstage.

No answer yet?
OK, a hint.

This is not the original, though this is a translation by the author himself, whose first language is english. However for some reason he first wrote this play in french, and only translated it in english later.
(...)
More hints: the author wrote several plays, as well as poetry, short stories, tales, but his best known work is probably ( well, one might argue as to which of his works is the "best-known") his one and unique novel. That novel belongs to the genre Fantasy, as do a lot of his short fiction. None of the plays, I believe, belong to that genre, and certainly not the one you have to guess.
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A longer quote:
XXX
How beautiful is the YY1 YY2 tonight!
ZZZ
Look at the moon. How strange the moon seems! She is like a woman rising from a tomb. She is like a dead woman. One might fancy she was looking for dead things.
XXX
She has a strange look. She is like a little YY1 who wears a yellow veil, and whose feet are of silver. She is like a YY1 who has little white doves for feet. One might fancy she was dancing.
ZZZ
She is like a woman who is dead. She moves very slowly.
voralfred wrote: This is a play. I hid the name (well, not names really, they are minor characters with a "job description" rather than an actual name) of the two first characters to speak, as well as that of the character spoken of, as these would be too obvious clues. YY1 is the title of the character named YY2, hence the article

In a published edition, a rather longish paragraph of stage directions comes before the first line actually uttered by a character, but I deleted it for being an obvious clue, too. These are the two first (four first, now) tlines uttered onstage.

No answer yet?
OK, a hint.

This is not the original, though this is a translation by the author himself, whose first language is english. However for some reason he first wrote this play in french, and only translated it in english later.
(...)
More hints: the author wrote several plays, as well as poetry, short stories, tales, but his best known work is probably ( well, one might argue as to which of his works is the "best-known") his one and unique novel. That novel belongs to the genre Fantasy, as do a lot of his short fiction. None of the plays, I believe, belong to that genre, and certainly not the one you have to guess.

:oops:
Sorry, I edited my first "hint post" rather than quoting it to amend it, so now its exact form is lost. But this is really irrelevant, all you need is the full list of hints I give now, the intermediate form was not guessed. But just so that everyone can see I added new hints, this has to be a new post, not just an edit so I post it a second time
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I think we can safely consider this cold and move on....
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OK, anyone is welcome to post a new one.
I won't give the answer in casre someone finds it in some furture. Anyone giving up can ask me by PM.
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How about this one:
The studio was filled with the rich odour of roses, and when the light summer wind stirred amidst the trees of the garden there came through the open door the heavy scent of the lilac, or the more delicate perfume of the pink-flowering thorn.
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The Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde

An author I appreciate very much...
Now what beats me is why SPetty did not guess my First Line ;)
Though cold enough for her to post a new one, I understand that finding it would still bring a sherlock, wouldn't it?

Hmmmmmmmmmmm... should I have answered this? Five days have not elapsed since SPetty asked it,.... but she did not answer my ptevious question either, she restarted the game after a cold quote, the exclusion rule maybe did not apply? And I just could not resist, for a reason that I am amazed is not yet obvious to everyone else...
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Well, you did say *anyone* could post a new first line, and I didn't think it'd been used yet.

As to the rest of it, I'm kind of boggled about the whole thing (and I don't read many plays, so I didn't even go looking for yours). I haven't read an Oscar Wilde play in over 15 years. I guess I've been distracted by lots of Bujold quotes. :)

No idea if you should have answered or not. However, I'm now suspicious of the author of your last quote, but am not allowed to answer for 5 days, so probably someone else will pick up on the clue before I get a chance to guess.

I think you get a Sherlock and the next quote. I suppose I should wait on official judgement to award it, though. :)
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SPetty wrote:Well, you did say *anyone* could post a new first line, and I didn't think it'd been used yet.
Of course you could post! That did not come into question. What I don't understand is your not answering my old quote in view of your choice of next quote.
The five days limit was about my answering, not your posting. I think maybe I should not have answered yours, without waiting 5 days after your posted it. My excuse is that it is a restart, not the normal situation: had you asked yours after answering mine rather than after mine went cold, I certainly would not have been allowed to answer.
On the other hand my old one is quite cold and you certainly can answer it now irrespective of who asks the future one. I am a bit fuzzy about that. Maybe I should ask it. If a third party answers it soon, maybe that third party should get the next one, since I answered too early?
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Are people allowed? Can I field one?

''My country, right or wrong'' is a thing that no patriot would think of saying except in a desperate case. It is like saying ''My mother, drunk or sober.''
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Ahem... it seems we have a bit too many candidates now.

"Anyone can post" was before SPetty did. But she did and I answered her quote (maybe too early). So maybe I should not ask the new one. I am certainly ready to say that if my old, as of this point unanswered quote is answered soon, whoever answers it should ask the next one.

But your quote, TGS, is it actually the first line of a novel (or maybe an essay) or just a quote from a speech, or an isolated quote? Only first lines from books (novels, plays, maybe short fiction or essays) are allowed in this thread, definitely not isolated quotes, even if they are very famous.

Moderator's opinion please?

But in any case, anyone including SPetty can answer my old quote (the play) for the sherlock, if maybe not for the next quote, since it is technically cold.
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:slap: Sorry, should have read the rules.
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It was Gilbert K. Chesterton.
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voralfred wrote: But your quote, TGS, is it actually the first line of a novel (or maybe an essay) or just a quote from a speech, or an isolated quote? Only first lines from books (novels, plays, maybe short fiction or essays) are allowed in this thread, definitely not isolated quotes, even if they are very famous.

Moderator's opinion please?
I believe we should keep it to first line of books(hopefuilly novels and or plays).
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Yes, that is about TGS's quote non-adequateness on the thread.

But what about the next quote. I am ready to wait a while to see if someones finally guesses my play, but if not soon, should I post a new one?
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Can I get a moderator's opinion whether I can answer voralfred's cold quote (as he just identified mine, I don't know whether I can answer his before the 5 days are up, or if those rules don't apply to cold quotes)?

It was actually chance that I picked that quote, by the way. I thought of it while I was reading some of the previous quotes.
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SPetty wrote:Can I get a moderator's opinion whether I can answer voralfred's cold quote (as he just identified mine, I don't know whether I can answer his before the 5 days are up, or if those rules don't apply to cold quotes)?
[Mod Mode] Anyone can answer a cold qoute at anytime (except the person who posted the quote).
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Ghost wrote: [Mod Mode] Anyone can answer a cold quote at anytime (except the person who posted the quote).
Thank you! In that case, voralfred's quote was

Salomé by Oscar Wilde (courtesy of my local library's Complete Works of Oscar Wilde ). :) Some of which I should probably get around to reading while I have it checked out.

And go ahead and post another quote. If I'd done this in the right order, it'd be your turn again anyway. :)
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Yes, it was indeed Salomé.
So this is why I was surprised you proposed another Oscar Wilde quote and did not connect it with the previous one.
Problem is, if you had done that in proper order, then I should really have had to wait 5 days...

Oh, well, anyway, here is a new quote. I don't think that one will go cold.
Among other public buildings in a certain town, which for many reasons it will be prudent to refrain from mentioning, and to which I will assign no fictitious name, there is one anciently common to most towns, great or small: to wit, a workhouse; and in this workhouse was born; on a day and date which I need not trouble myself to repeat, inasmuch as it can be of no possible consequence to the reader, in this stage of the business at all events; the item of mortality whose name is prefixed to the head of this chapter.
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Nobody yet?
Oh, come on!
Everyone of you either read it or heard enough about it to guess just from the atmosphere!
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It's on the tip of my tongue, but no, I don't think I've read it *blush*
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Hint:

Oom-pah-pah! Oom-pah-pah!
That's how it goes,
Oom-pah-pah! Oom-pah-pah!
Ev'ryone knows.



They all suppose what they want to suppose
When they hear...oom-pah-pah!!
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Okay, well that just threw me further off the track. I'm lost LOL
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