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Hysteron Proteron. Back. Hysteron Proteron. Hysteron Proteron: 1. a figure of speech in which the logical order of ideas is reversed.
I hearby disallow myself the point because I googled it - and the answer above was one of the top responses.

In order to preserve the sanctity of the game, I'd like to suggest that all future authors of Sherlock Point questions make a resonable effort to ensure that the questions they offer up for points are written in such a way that the questions are not directly answerable with a simple google. And yes, that means running a test google on your question before posting it. :deviate:

The fact that something is worth a sherlock point *should* require that the answerer either know the answer outright, from their own personal knowledge, OR that they have to do a fair amount of sleuth work in order to uncover the answer. A trivial search shouldnt work.
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Here's another word I've become fond of: invaginate.
Invaginate has three distinct meanings, none of them sexual. Transitively, to invaginate and object is to ensheath it, to push it into a close-fitting cover, such as one made to receive a tool or a sword. Intransitively, to invaginate is to become invaginated, i.e., to receive something invaginated. To invaginate a tube is to turn it inside out. The word comes from Latin (of course!) which is the combination of the prefix in- (in, into) and vagina (sheath, scabbard); vagina in Latin, like invaginate in English, has no sexual meaning or connotation--that came from our imaginative English linguists. :wink:
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Hysteron Proteron. Back. Hysteron Proteron. Hysteron Proteron: 1. a figure of speech in which the logical order of ideas is reversed.
I hearby disallow myself the point because I googled it - and the answer above was one of the top responses.

In order to preserve the sanctity of the game, I'd like to suggest that all future authors of Sherlock Point questions make a resonable effort to ensure that the questions they offer up for points are written in such a way that the questions are not directly answerable with a simple google. And yes, that means running a test google on your question before posting it. :deviate:

The fact that something is worth a sherlock point *should* require that the answerer either know the answer outright, from their own personal knowledge, OR that they have to do a fair amount of sleuth work in order to uncover the answer. A trivial search shouldnt work.
Never even thought of that. But then I rarely Google, so of course it never occurred to me... :slap:

Yet, despite all that, what do the words themselves mean? Histeron proteron?
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Again, an easy google ...
from Gk. hysteros, "later" and protos, "first" ("the latter put as the former"
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All right, give me a bit and I'll find you something of suitable difficulty...
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hehehe :twisted: All right, Brad. I found one: moazogotl What is the definition of this advective?

I may give a clue later...if no one can get it. :mrgreen:
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I'd say Greek (rather than Latin) and it means a Logical Fallacy, where you base an argument on an unproven fact, much like MK and his assertions about Metal being the best music :deviate:

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[edit: bloody hell - that's what happens when you start a post then get involved in fixing the kids computer for an hour before you click on submit!]

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Aunflin wrote:hehehe :twisted: All right, Brad. I found one: moazogotl What is the definition of this advective?

I may give a clue later...if no one can get it. :mrgreen:
Anyone care to take a guess? :twisted:
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Aunflin wrote: Anyone care to take a guess? :twisted:

Well in German:

Moazh means buttocks and

Golt means gold or golden,

Which can be interpreted as slightly brownish

So how about “sh*ty assedâ€
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Aunflin wrote:hehehe :twisted: All right, Brad. I found one: moazogotl What is the definition of this advective?

I may give a clue later...if no one can get it. :mrgreen:
"gotl" means "forgive" in a dialect of Tolkien's black speech.

Also, moazogotl is a username on BookCrossing. Interesting...
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Sorry, but no. :twisted: Good try, though. :thumb:

Now, I reckon I'll wait a bit and see if anyone else hazards a guess. If not, I may post a brief clue... 8)
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I yeild :worship:
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Well, you're the one who wanted something "un-Googleable." :P

P.S. Are you hiding from us, Brad? :deviate:
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hehehehe :twisted: I guess I'll give a clue....

moazogotl: an adjective which serves exclusively as a modifier for a specific noun--I'll leave that noun unsaid for the moment. Maybe someone can figure it out :wink:

A moazogotl (insert noun) is "...created under foehn conditions..."

Ah, puzzles within puzzles... :deviate:

Now, if someone can figure this out, I reckon it should be worth a few Sherlocks....

So again, what does moazogotl mean, what noun does it exclusively modify--and what in the heck does foehn mean...? 8)
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Moazogotl is a stationary cloud formation.

Moazogotl can be a adjective for wind.

Foehn is a warm, dry down slope wind along the lee side of a mountain.

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Aunflin, I never could have got that w/o your clue.

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Great job, Ghost! :clap:

You figured it out. So, I guess I'll give you a Sherlock for each one: moazogotl, foehn, and the identification of cloud as the noun. :thumb:

Ooh! I do believe I will start an obcure word thread--if only to amuse me-self... :crazy:
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Aunflin wrote:Here's another word I've become fond of: invaginate.
Invaginate has three distinct meanings, none of them sexual. Transitively, to invaginate and object is to ensheath it, to push it into a close-fitting cover, such as one made to receive a tool ...
lol ... that is not sexual ... how?


This is similar to having male and female connectors. TOTALLY a sexual reference, just not pornographic.
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Well, at least it has no sexual meaning in its intended usage :wink:
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A friend sent me this one ...

Today's word: Anacreontic (uh-nak-ree-ON-tik), adjective.

Celebrating love and drinking. For example: "an anacreontic poem."

[After Anacreon, a Greek poet in the 6th century BCE, noted for his songs in praise of love and wine.]

The US national anthem 'The Star-Spangled Banner' is set to the tune of the English song 'To Anacreon in Heaven' which was the 'constitutional song' of the Anacreontic Society, a gentlemen's music club in London.

"Some days passed before I could rid my thoughts of Thecla ... who had
initiated me into the anacreontic diversions and fruitions of men and women."
- Gene Wolfe; Shadow & Claw; Orb Books; 1994.
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