LMB Quote Game

[Ghost]

Book: Captain Vorpatril's Alliance
He: Ivan
XXX: Tej

Bonus: Tej

[voralfred]

Book: Captain Vorpatril's Alliance
He: Ivan
XXX: Tej

Bonus: Tej

Correct on all counts.
Not only that, but we agree on what the "view" was, but this pseudo-bonus does not bring an extra 1/2 point.

Anyway, you have the "baton", as Karen says.

[Ghost]

“But to refuse the xxx is to refuse the yyy, and something worse, more irrevocable, than misfortune. Do you understand what I’m saying?”

“No,” said Aaaaa.

“Yes,” said Bbbbb.

Who is talking
Who said “No”
Who said “Yes”

[KarenHunt]

“But to refuse the xxx is to refuse the yyy, and something worse, more irrevocable, than misfortune. Do you understand what I’m saying?”

“No,” said Aaaaa.

“Yes,” said Bbbbb.

Who is talking: Cordelia Vorkosigan
Who said “No”: Prime Minister Count Vortala
Who said “Yes”: Aral Vorkosigan

[Ghost]

Correct ... ... you're up.

[KarenHunt]

"There were two principal possibilities on the table.... First, was that you were an adventuress who had somehow succeeded in entrapping XXX, and he should be rescued from you as expeditiously as possible. Maybe. After I’d found out how you did it, for future reference."

Who says this?
To whom?
Who is XXX?
What tale?

Karen Hunt

[KarenHunt]

Extending the quote somewhat

"There were two principal possibilities on the table.... First, was that you were an adventuress who had somehow succeeded in entrapping XXX, and he should be rescued from you as expeditiously as possible. Maybe. After I’d found out how you did it, for future reference.... The second main hypothesis was that you were exactly as you appeared to be, the unwitting victim of one of XXX’s less-well-thought-out inspirations, and needed to be rescued from him. My YYY consultants were both united in setting that as a high probability."

Who says this?
To whom?
Who is XXX?
What is YYY?
What tale?

Karen Hunt

[voralfred]

Extending the quote somewhat

"There were two principal possibilities on the table.... First, was that you were an adventuress who had somehow succeeded in entrapping XXX, and he should be rescued from you as expeditiously as possible. Maybe. After I’d found out how you did it, for future reference.... The second main hypothesis was that you were exactly as you appeared to be, the unwitting victim of one of XXX’s less-well-thought-out inspirations, and needed to be rescued from him. My YYY consultants were both united in setting that as a high probability."

Who says this?
To whom?
Who is XXX?
What is YYY?
What tale?

Karen Hunt

Who says this? Alys
To whom? Tej
Who is XXX? Ivan
What is YYY? ImpSec
What tale? Captain's Vorpatril Alliance

[KarenHunt]

Extending the quote somewhat

"There were two principal possibilities on the table.... First, was that you were an adventuress who had somehow succeeded in entrapping XXX, and he should be rescued from you as expeditiously as possible. Maybe. After I’d found out how you did it, for future reference.... The second main hypothesis was that you were exactly as you appeared to be, the unwitting victim of one of XXX’s less-well-thought-out inspirations, and needed to be rescued from him. My YYY consultants were both united in setting that as a high probability."

Who says this?
To whom?
Who is XXX?
What is YYY?
What tale?

Karen Hunt

Who says this? Alys
To whom? Tej
Who is XXX? Ivan
What is YYY? ImpSec
What tale? Captain's Vorpatril Alliance

Correct! Will attempt to remember how to give points - five is right, yes?

Karen Hunt

[voralfred]

Correct! Will attempt to remember how to give points - five is right, yes?

Karen Hunt

No ! Only one point.
There was no specified bonus, so it is all a single question.

New quote

"If AAA must die then so must BBB! (…) …”

AAA and BBB are possessive pronouns.
The (…) mean that I did not give the entire content of this utterance.
Small hint: The line actually does end with three points, as indicated, the person who said it problably wanted to say more, but did not find the words…
Other hint: this line was not said to anyone in particular, but still said after someone else said something, so :

Who uttered this line ?
Whose utterance led to this one ?
What story ?

Bonus for 1/2 point
Give at least two more people who were present, besides the two persons above.

[voralfred]

A longer quote ?

"If AAA must die then so must BBB1! Why should BBB2 get off so soft? (…) …”

AAA and BBB1 are possessive pronouns.
BBB2 is the personal pronoun BBB1 is the possessive of.
(I know, I know, a preposition is something one should never end a sentence with....)
The (…) mean that I did not give the entire content of this utterance.
Small hint: The line actually does end with three points, as indicated, the person who said it problably wanted to say more, but did not find the words…
Other hint: this line was not said to anyone in particular, but still said after someone else said something, so :

Who uttered this line ?
Whose utterance led to this one ?
What story ?

Bonus for 1/2 point
Give at least two more people who were present, besides the two persons above.

[voralfred]

A still longer quote ?

"If mine must die then so must hers! Why should she get off so soft? Spoiled her . . . I tried my best, I did my best, it's not fair. . . ."

Now the line is complete, the two sets of three points are actually in the text.
Other hint: this line was not said to anyone in particular, but still said after someone else said something, so :

Who uttered this line ?
Whose utterance led to this one ?
What story ?

Bonuses for 1/2 point each

#1
Give at least two more people who were present, besides the two persons above.

#2
There is one word in the above line that the person who speaks has used already twice before in this very emotional scene.Which one ?

[E Pericoloso Sporgersi]

Doesn't ring a bell.

Though it makes me think of a child petulantly complaining about a perceived slight.

Maybe in one of the two latest stories I haven't read yet?

[voralfred]

OK more hints:

Contrary to EPS's supposition, a very old story which he has certainly read. In fact it is still my favorite story, and has kept this rank for a long, long time.

The possessives "mine" and "hers" are children. So the speaker is certainly not a child. The "slight" is not just "percieved"... I mean, children died !

"If mine must die then so must hers! Why should she get off so soft? Spoiled her . . . I tried my best, I did my best, it's not fair. . . ."

Now the line is complete, the two sets of three points are actually in the text.
Other hint: this line was not said to anyone in particular, but still said after someone else said something, so :

Who uttered this line ?
Whose utterance led to this one ?
What story ?

Bonuses for 1/2 point each

#1
Give at least two more people who were present, besides the two persons above.

#2
There is one word in the above line that the person who speaks has used already twice before in this very emotional scene.Which one ?
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[KarenHunt]

All right:
Ma Mattulich uttered this.
Miles Vorkosigan's utterance resulted in this statement.
The Mountains of Mourning

bonuses:
Serg Karal, Armsman Pym, Harra Csurik, Lem Csurik
The word is mutie.

OK more hints:

Contrary to EPS's supposition, a very old story which he has certainly read. In fact it is still my favorite story, and has kept this rank for a long, long time.

The possessives "mine" and "hers" are children. So the speaker is certainly not a child. The "slight" is not just "percieved"... I mean, children died !

"If mine must die then so must hers! Why should she get off so soft? Spoiled her . . . I tried my best, I did my best, it's not fair. . . ."

Now the line is complete, the two sets of three points are actually in the text.
Other hint: this line was not said to anyone in particular, but still said after someone else said something, so :

Who uttered this line ?
Whose utterance led to this one ?
What story ?

Bonuses for 1/2 point each

#1
Give at least two more people who were present, besides the two persons above.

#2
There is one word in the above line that the person who speaks has used already twice before in this very emotional scene.Which one ?

[/quote]

[voralfred]

Main quote OK
Bonus 1 OK
Bonus 2 not OK : the word has to be in the full line
"If mine must die then so must hers! Why should she get off so soft? Spoiled her . . . I tried my best, I did my best, it's not fair. . . ."
and used twice before in the discussion

So the next quote and 1 and 1/2 point

Pending bonuses can be answered by any player at any time and do not interfere with the normal progress of the game.

[KarenHunt]

I'll leave the bonus off rather than look at the text to find the answer! If anyone wants it, feel free to grab.

So:

How fortunate that science hasn't cracked human immortality. It's a great blessing that we can outlive old wars. And old warriors.

Who says this?
Who to?
What tale?

Bonuses:
1) What is this a reference to in the second statement?
2) Same for third statement?

Karen Hunt

Main quote OK
Bonus 1 OK
Bonus 2 not OK : the word has to be in the full line
"If mine must die then so must hers! Why should she get off so soft? Spoiled her . . . I tried my best, I did my best, it's not fair. . . ."
and used twice before in the discussion

So the next quote and 1 and 1/2 point

[KarenHunt]

Slightly extending the quote:

He had his place in history, and I was alone, past pain, without mother or father to torment me. How fortunate that science hasn't cracked human immortality. It's a great blessing that we can outlive old wars. And old warriors.

Who says this?
Who to?
What tale?

Bonuses:
1) What does the second statement refer to?
2) Same for third statement?

Karen Hunt

[KarenHunt]

Extending the quote a bit farther:

I wish he had stayed dead in the first place. His first death was a much better one, glorious in the heat of battle. He had his place in history, and I was alone, past pain, without mother or father to torment me. How fortunate that science hasn't cracked human immortality. It's a great blessing that we can outlive old wars. And old warriors.

Who says this?
Who to?
What tale?

Bonuses:
1) What does the second statement refer to?
2) Same for third statement?

Karen Hunt

[voralfred]

Extending the quote a bit farther:

I wish he had stayed dead in the first place. His first death was a much better one, glorious in the heat of battle. He had his place in history, and I was alone, past pain, without mother or father to torment me. How fortunate that science hasn't cracked human immortality. It's a great blessing that we can outlive old wars. And old warriors.

Karen Hunt

Who says this? Duv Galeni
Who to? Miles
What tale? Brothers in Arms

Bonuses:
1) What does the second statement refer to? The various Komarran revolts that followed the Conquest of Komarr
2) Same for third statement? Ser Galen, who did not stay dead

[KarenHunt]

Extending the quote a bit farther:

I wish he had stayed dead in the first place. His first death was a much better one, glorious in the heat of battle. He had his place in history, and I was alone, past pain, without mother or father to torment me. How fortunate that science hasn't cracked human immortality. It's a great blessing that we can outlive old wars. And old warriors.

Karen Hunt

Who says this? Duv Galeni
Who to? Miles
What tale? Brothers in Arms

Bonuses:
1) What does the second statement refer to? The various Komarran revolts that followed the Conquest of Komarr
2) Same for third statement? Ser Galen, who did not stay dead

Got 'em all! (2 points, right?)

Karen Hunt

[voralfred]

Got 'em all! (2 points, right?)
Karen Hunt

Right : 1+1/2+1/2

New quote

By God. I could be the first AAA BBB on-site.

Italics, so it is a thought. So

Who thinks that ?
AAA BBB ?
Book ?


Bonus (two answers needed for 1/2 point):
Why is this thought literally, technically, correct ?
Why is it incorrect in a less literal interpretation ?

[voralfred]

A longer quote and a small hint

By God. I could be the first AAA BBB on-site. He'd have to be sure and point that out, in his report to CCC.

The italics represent a thought of the POV character. The non-italics is from that point of view, so it is not so different from a thought, really. Third person rather than first person.

Who thinks that= is the POV character ?
AAA BBB ?
Book ?


Bonus #1 (two answers needed for 1/2 point):
Why is this thought literally, technically, correct ?
Why is it incorrect in a less literal interpretation ?


Bonus #2 for another 1/2 point.
Who is CCC ? Any non-ambiguous designation is OK, no need to use exactly the word used in the text.

This is indeed a small hint, that CCC can be designated by a single word, but also by different other ways.

[KarenHunt]

A longer quote and a small hint

By God. I could be the first AAA BBB on-site. He'd have to be sure and point that out, in his report to CCC.

The italics represent a thought of the POV character. The non-italics is from that point of view, so it is not so different from a thought, really. Third person rather than first person.

Who thinks that= is the POV character ? Miles Vorkosigan
AAA BBB ? ImpSec Agent
Book ? Mirror Dance


Bonus #1 (two answers needed for 1/2 point):
Why is this thought literally, technically, correct ? Mark is not an agent (his time there was unpaid, unwanted, and he was not an agent)
Why is it incorrect in a less literal interpretation ? Mark arrived here as a result of his doing work for ImpSec


Bonus #2 for another 1/2 point.
Who is CCC ? Any non-ambiguous designation is OK, no need to use exactly the word used in the text. Simon Illyan

This is indeed a small hint, that CCC can be designated by a single word, but also by different other ways.

[voralfred]

Perfect.
The next quote and 2 points, including two 1/2 point bonuses.