LMB Quote Game

Caroline Tredez · Post by **Caroline Tredez** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:35 pm

Since I answer late, I'll give two clues :

- It's not in TSK
- The speaker only appears in two books, and the listener only in this one.

voralfred · Post by **voralfred** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:40 am

Well, I have thought it out carefully. This definitely sounds like Ista.
It is not in CoC and I cannot put my hand on my copy of PoS. But I bet it should be there.
Talking to whom? None of the dy Gura brothers, since they also appear in CoC. To dy Cabon ? Unlikely.
Down to Ilvin, Arhys or Cattilara. I don't think it is Cattilara.
But I really have no preference between Arhys or Ilvin.
It's been a long time. Even if I don't get the

, OK to offer a new quote?

Caroline Tredez · Post by **Caroline Tredez** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:44 pm

Ista to Arhys dy Lutez : close enough, voralfred, go ahead

voralfred · Post by **voralfred** » Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:47 am

Well, I'm not giving an actual quote, I'll do it EPS's way.
Because I am correcting the translations of the Vorkosigan Saga, I have a strong sensitivity to verbs which are hard to translate into french.
So I know for a fact that the verb "unhand" appears exactly twice in the Vorkosigan Saga (since I do not correct translations of the other books, I don't know how often it appears in them.)

In both cases the word is uttered by a character who tells another one to unhand a third one.
So 1/2

for each utterance of "unhand", with book, and the three characters concerned.

If one player gives one instance and another one gives the other one, then by definition the first one is easier to find, so the next quote goes to the player who answers second.

If there are more examples in the other series (or in Spirit Ring), each extra example (book and enough context for me to find it easily) brings a further bonus of 1/2

but never the quote, whatever the number of such examples from a single player. Bonus can be presented even before the main quesiton is solved.

sarsaparilla · Post by **sarsaparilla** » Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:39 pm

Well I have no idea about the other one, but I vividly remember the one in Captain Vorpatril's Alliance, because it comes right before the end of the sample we got before the book came out.

So that would be Ivan, telling Komarran security to "Unhand Lady Vorpatril!" aka Tej. In true Ivan fashion.

voralfred · Post by **voralfred** » Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:20 pm

Well, that's correct ! So you deserve one half

which I will award when the second instance is given.
As I have said, the next quote is for the person who finds that other instance...

Caroline Tredez · Post by **Caroline Tredez** » Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:09 pm

I have the other, but I posted the quote before : would it be ok for me to answer, and for sarsaparilla to get the next quote ?

voralfred · Post by **voralfred** » Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:45 am

Caroline Tredez wrote:I have the other, but I posted the quote before : would it be ok for me to answer, and for sarsaparilla to get the next quote ?

Well, in this case the usual anti-"ping-pong"-rule applies.
You cannot answer for 5 days after my original posting. After that, you can. And anyone but you can answer right now, sarsaparilla incuded, if she guesses it at a later time. I never said that a player must post the two instances at once.
I did say that any instance gets 1/2 point, and the second instance, whether by the same player or not, gets the next quote.

Now if noone answers till March 29th, and you do at that time, the second 1/2

is yours, these are not tranferrable. But at that point if you wish to offer the next quote to sarsaparilla, it is up to you. There is no rule, as far as I know, that keeps a player from offering the quote to another one.

Anyway, to make the game more interesting to the others, I'll give right now a hint that I originally intended to give later:
In the other instance, the person to be "unhanded" is called a "lady" with a lower-case rather than a capital "l"
Indeed, she is not a Lady Vormachinchose according to barrayaran law (or custom), but she certainly deserves the qualifier.

voralfred · Post by **voralfred** » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:36 am

There is not much time till Caroline may post. So to make the game even more interesting to the others, I'll give a much stronger hint than the previous one.
In the other instance, the person to be "unhanded" is called a "lady" with a lower-case rather than a capital "l"
Indeed, she is not yet Lady Vormachinchose according to barrayaran law (or custom), but she certainly deserves the qualifier.

voralfred · Post by **voralfred** » Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:48 am

Caroline, yoo-hoo ?
I did offer two hints to make the game more fun but by now noone has jumped in. So do give your answer !
And if it is correct (as I assume it is) the new quote is yours to post yourself or to offer to sarsaparilla, as you prefer.

Caroline Tredez · Post by **Caroline Tredez** » Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:22 pm

Illyan to Vormoncrief in the Vorthys House. He's bothering Ekaterin, defending her Nikki. If memory serves, the phrase would be "the lady asked you to unhand her. She shoudn't have to ask twice. Or... once."

Could sarsaparilla take the next quote, then ? I don't have my books at hand, unfortunately, but one (and my last quote already came from it).

voralfred · Post by **voralfred** » Wed Apr 02, 2014 5:54 am

This answer is correct, of course.
I'll update the

thread (I have not yet given sarsaparilla her 1/2 point).
Sarsaparilla, would you care to post a new quote?

sarsaparilla · Post by **sarsaparilla** » Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:47 am

Fine by me.

Taken from the book I happen to be reading right now; I read a little till I found one I liked.

He didn't really need a drink, he just wanted one.

Book?
Who is "he"?
Why does he want a drink?

sarsaparilla · Post by **sarsaparilla** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:11 pm

An expansion, perhaps?

He rose from his chair much more stiffly than he had intended; XXX made a gesture of a helping hand to his elbow, but at YYY's frown and tiny head shake, suppressed it. He didn't really need a drink, he just wanted one.

Book?
Who is XXX?
Who is YYY?
Why does he want a drink?

voralfred · Post by **voralfred** » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:31 pm

Found it ! I was under no-ping-pong rule, but it is much more than 5 days, now, so I may answer.

Book: Komarr
XXX: Tien Vorsoisson
YYY: Miles, who wants a drink because he just attended the presentation of Tien's department and collected a few hundred of thousands of words to read

sarsaparilla · Post by **sarsaparilla** » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:46 pm

Close enough that I'll give it to you.

(It was actually Lord Auditor Vorthys, not Tien.)

Voralfred gets the sherlock and the next quote!

I'm really glad you got it; my internet for the next two weeks is going to be really patchy while I travel. So that's a weight off my mind.

voralfred · Post by **voralfred** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:16 pm

sarsaparilla wrote:Close enough that I'll give it to you. (It was actually Lord Auditor Vorthys, not Tien.)

(....)

I cannot read, apparently....
Or rather, my memory is becoming as patchy as Simon's: between reading the line and turning to my computer to type, I forgot....
Anyway, next quote, an easy one, I think :

"Now what, Xxx? I'm busy. Those who can, do; those who can't, teach."
And those who can't teach, Xxx finished silently, go into administration.

Book?
First speaker?
Xxx?

voralfred · Post by **voralfred** » Mon May 05, 2014 7:22 am

voralfred wrote:
"Now what, Xxx? I'm busy. Those who can, do; those who can't, teach."
And those who can't teach, Xxx finished silently, go into administration.
Book?
First speaker?
Xxx?

So hard?
A hint: Xxx is not Vorthys, and the first speaker is not Tien Vorsoisson (who, anyway, would never dare to talk to Vorthys this way, though he undoubtably felt that way)
But the personality of Xxx is close to that of Vorthys, though stronger, and that of the first speaker related to that of Tien, but much, much stronger !

SPetty · Post by **SPetty** » Mon May 05, 2014 10:34 am

I'm pretty sure I know what it is, but I can't remember the name of the speaker, and I don't have a copy of this particular book (I think it's the only one I don't have, actually).

orchestrali · Post by **orchestrali** » Mon May 05, 2014 2:00 pm

Ooh, can I play? I think I know this one.

Book? Falling Free
First speaker? That awful Bruce guy. Van Atta.
Xxx? Leo Graf!

It's when Leo has a plan and is starting to pretend to go along with Bruce instead of arguing out loud...

Alison

SPetty · Post by **SPetty** » Mon May 05, 2014 7:49 pm

Welcome, and Thank you! I remembered his name started with a B, but couldn't remember what it was. (Of course, it's polite to wait for Voralfred to confirm the correct answer, just in case we're hallucinating the answer together).

voralfred · Post by **voralfred** » Wed May 07, 2014 8:08 am

Hello orchestrali !
Of course you are welcome to play.
Your answer is correct and you win your first sherlock.
Now it is your turn to post a new quote !

orchestrali · Post by **orchestrali** » Wed May 07, 2014 4:15 pm

Here I go...

"A little learning is a dangerous thing."

Book?
Speaker?
To whom is this said?

I think this is pretty difficult, but we clearly all have different opinions on what makes a difficult quotation. Perhaps one of you noticed this when reading because it's not original to the LMB book it's in—the first known instance of it in print was in 1709, in a piece by Alexander Pope. *I* learned this quote and its source from one of Dorothy L. Sayers' Peter Wimsey books, which I read because of their connection with the Vorkosigan books. Which I suppose is a hint! If you know which Peter Wimsey book has this same line (actually a slight variation), you will get cool points. I don't know, should I offer a bonus? This is an LMB quote game, not a DLS one.

orchestrali · Post by **orchestrali** » Sun May 11, 2014 11:53 am

In the interest of speeding things up, a little extension:

"A little learning is a dangerous thing." Xxx glanced up at Yyy. "Which of you should I congratulate?"

Book?
Speaker/Xxx? (Xxx is a pronoun in the quote)
To whom is the first sentence said?
Who are the candidates for congratulations? Yyy is one of them.

I think this is pretty difficult, but we clearly all have different opinions on what makes a difficult quotation. Perhaps one of you noticed this when reading because it's not original to the LMB book it's in—the first known instance of it in print was in 1709, in a piece by Alexander Pope. *I* learned this quote and its source from one of Dorothy L. Sayers' Peter Wimsey books, which I read because of their connection with the Vorkosigan books. Which I suppose is a hint! If you know which Peter Wimsey book has this same line (actually a slight variation), you will get cool points. I don't know, should I offer a bonus? This is an LMB quote game, not a DLS one.

sarsaparilla · Post by **sarsaparilla** » Wed May 14, 2014 9:23 am

orchestrali wrote:In the interest of speeding things up, a little extension:

"A little learning is a dangerous thing." Xxx glanced up at Yyy. "Which of you should I congratulate?"
Book?
Speaker/Xxx? (Xxx is a pronoun in the quote)
To whom is the first sentence said?
Who are the candidates for congratulations? Yyy is one of them.

Book is Shards of Honor.
Speaker is Aral.
The first sentence is said to (freshly murdered) Ges Vorrutyer.
Candidates for congratulations are Cordelia and Bothari.

I've never read any Sayers, so I'm afraid I don't get any cool points. At the moment.

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