LMB Quote Game

[E Pericoloso Sporgersi]

... I still haven't gone into the basement, so I can't do the bonus yet.

You must be a *good girl*!

I've always associated going-to-the-basement with the punishment for a spoiled brat who did something bad.

Maybe you can send hubby (if there is one) when next the occasion presents itself. Would it take much longer for his daily goof?

[voralfred]

No one's looked at the scene in Warrior's Apprentice where Elena and Miles are looking through Kou's comconsole for Elena's mother, only to be interrupted, whereupon Miles improvs that they are practicing a play?

I still haven't gone into the basement, so I can't do the bonus yet.

Your answer to the main question is right, so you get one and the next quote.
Just so you know, in the french translations, the quote is not from Richard III, not known enough in France. In the first edition it is a translation from Romeo and Juliet, but a line which I think was not known enough, either. In the reedition, instead of a translation from the play, we chose an exact quote from an opéra in five acts by Charles Gounod to a French libretto by Jules Barbier and Michel Carré, based on the play by the Bard, of course. When we worked on the reedition, we looked for something that would be more familiar to a french readership. Also we wanted a longish line by Juliet in the "lark/nightingale" exchange, that would follow a line by Romeo, and none were convenient. In the opera we had

ROMEO:
(...) L'alouette déjà nous annonce le jour!
JULIETTE
Non, non, ce n'est pas le jour, ce n'est pas l'alouette
Dont le chant a frappé ton oreille inquiète,
C'est le doux rossignol, confident de l'amour!

(well, you don't need an exact back-translation, do you? You can get the main idea from the original: alouette=lark, rossignol=nightingale)

Whether french readers (wrongly) believe it is an exact translation of the play by Shakespeare, or realize it is really the libretto of the opera is irrelevant. What is important is that this text should actually evoque "Roméo et Juliette" in the mind of at least a good fraction of the readers (the alouette/rossignol dialectics is rather characteristic)


As for the bonus, it is still pending, and anyone (not just Spetty) is allowed to give an answer without time limitation (if a newcomer reads this, after any number of years, it is still possible to get a bonus, and even if I'm not here anymore, any other player may confirm...) Please give both the place in the play and in the book by LMB.
I know of one "hidden quote" of Richard III, but there might be more.
Some shakespearian quotes are not exact, too. I know of at least one obvious quote where the wording is slightly different. A thought, inspired by a line of a play, but slightly modified to fit the situation at hand. That particular one is not in Richard III,(but it might be used in some other question, as a bonus for an exact quote of the play it comes from, for instance...)
If there is such a "modified" quote of Richard III that I am not aware of, it would be a valid bonus for this question.
And in fact the quote I am thinking of for this bonus is not quite exact. The wording is exactly the same, but not the spelling. LMB spells all the words in the grammatically exact form, but in the text I have under my eyes, Shakespeare has elided one vowel (probably to fit the versification rules).

[SPetty]

A small extension:

"I don't imagine they get many murders here."
"How many did you get in Xxx?"

Which book?
Who is speaking first?
To whom?
Where is "here"?
What is Xxx?

I should point out that the first line of the quote is not the complete quote. There were sentences in the paragraph prior to that one. They're also not conducive to making it difficult to guess context, so I'm not using them.

[SPetty]

Unfortunately, if I edit the original message, it doesn't change the status on the front page... so I guess I can add a second hint: the first speaker doesn't appear in as many books as the second speaker.

[voralfred]

OK, people!
I more or less guessed the answer rather early, but I had my five days t wait... So I only just went to the place I thought it was... and it was indeed there. And my exclusion time is soon up....
One more hint: "they" really have very few murders there (="here") because "they" are really a bunch of law-abiding, ah, fellows.

[SPetty]

I'll go for another hint to keep Voralfred from getting yet another Sherlock: it's one of the two most recently published books in the series (in other words, don't look in Curse of Chalion, SK Beguilement, Legacy, or any of the pre-Ekaterin Vorkosigan books because it's not there). That limits it to 7 books, right?

[E Pericoloso Sporgersi]

"I don't imagine they get many murders here."
"How many did you get in Xxx?"

Okay. I'll throw a pebble in the pond.

Which book? Cryoburn
Who is speaking first? Roic
To whom? Raven
Where is "here"? Abu-dhaibi
What is Xxx? Hassadar

[SPetty]

Two of the answers are correct, but not the book. Try again!

[voralfred]

I just logged in to answer, but since EPS has started, I'll wait a bit more.
Anyway, EPS, it might just possibly have been Kibou-Daini, but certainly not Abu Dhabi!
Miles does come to our Old Earth (in _BiA_ for instance) but to my knowledge, only to London and the Beauchène Clinic, which is somewhere in the western hemisphere...

[E Pericoloso Sporgersi]

... since EPS has started, I'll wait a bit more.
...

Go ahead. I was just making some ripples.

[voralfred]

First speaker is indeed Roic
Xxx is indeed Hassadar
but
Book is Diplomatic Immunity
Second speaker is Miles
"here" is Quaddiespace, a law-abiding part of the Nexus if ever there was one

[SPetty]

Correct, of course! Your Sherlock, and your turn, Voralfred.

[voralfred]

I am deep into a Shakespearian trip. So here is another one. This time it is not an explicit quote as the one from Richard III, but a "hidden quote" like the bonus on Richard III (still pending, of course..)
So it is a reminiscence, thought (not uttered) by a character in whose mind it popped because of some external circumstance.

It is from Macbeth.
A very, very short quote, but I really believe it is characteristic enough that anyone reading the LMB book should have noticed it (I did, and I am french!)

I'll give you a hint already: in Macbeth the quote is said in really tragic circumstances. In LMB's book it is because of some minor mishap. Unfortunate, sure, but very minor. So the fact that it elicited such a tragic quote is rather ironical. Look for a comic relief situation, not for a tragical one!

- quote itself? (it's OK if you just give it by memory, and so maybe a bit approximatively)
- book?
- whose mind does it pop into?
- circumstances?

[voralfred]

I am deep into a Shakespearian trip. So here is another one. This time it is not an explicit quote as the one from Richard III, but a "hidden quote" like the bonus on Richard III (still pending, of course..)
So it is a reminiscence, thought (not uttered) by a character in whose mind it popped because of some external circumstance.

It is from Macbeth.
A very, very short quote, but I really believe it is characteristic enough that anyone reading the LMB book should have noticed it (I did, and I am french!)

I'll give you a hint already: in Macbeth the quote is said in really tragic circumstances. In LMB's book it is because of some minor mishap. Unfortunate, sure, but very minor. So the fact that it elicited such a tragic quote is rather ironical. Look for a comic relief situation, not for a tragical one!

- quote itself? (it's OK if you just give it by memory, and so maybe a bit approximatively)
- book?
- whose mind does it pop into?
- circumstances?

One more hint: it is a "indirect thought".
One character jokingly believes that another one should be, in some precise circumstances, feeling like Lady Macbeth (so this is really a second hint) when she utters these words in much more tragic circumstances.

[E Pericoloso Sporgersi]

I'm afraid this requires more knowledge of Shakespeare than I have.
It's too hard for me to shake a spear at, let alone a stick.

[voralfred]

Well, to be honest Idid not really expect for Caroline to guess this one. But we have some native english speakers, who supposedly sucked the Bard with their mother's milk. So I hoped one of them would recognize this extremely short (four words, in fact only three different words, but the first one repeated twice) but extremely characteristic quote by Lady Macbeth.

Hmmmmm...
I just checked it: LMB's quote is slightly incorrect: she repeats the first word of Lady Macbeth twice at the beginning of the quote; the Bard repeats it at the end, and as the beginning of a new sentence

The original quote is :
XXX, YYY ZZZ! XXX, ...

LMB slightly misquotes it as
XXX, XXX, YYY ZZZ...

(The length of the words is not necessarily three letters, it is just a way of mine to write three letters to represent anything....)
The repeated word, the one I denote by XXX, however, has exactly three letters.

[ommadawndk]

Uhm, for the original quote "Out, damned spot, out"? But I have no idea where it's copied.

[voralfred]

Uhm, for the original quote "Out, damned spot, out"? But I have no idea where it's copied.

Hi Lise!

I recognized your userid! Welcome to the game.

Yes, you did guess the correct quote in Macbeth, but you did not find where in LMB's books.
The traditional solution in cases like that is, you get half a point, but not the right to post the next quote.
To be allowed to post the next quote the winner must find where the (mis)-quote "Out, out, damned spot" appears in LMB's work.
However the winner will only get the second half of the point. If it is not found within a few more days (when exactly, is when the other players start to complain), the quote becomes cold. In that case, you get to post a new one, but second half-point remains pending till it is solved, forever. No time limit for cold quotes nor old bonuses (there is a recent one about Richard III, if you scroll up a few questions, there might be some very very old ones, but I don't remember how long ago, you'd have to scroll up for many many pages to find them, if any at all!!!).
I'll update your 1/2 point together with the winner's 1/2 point if the quote is found, or else, when we collectively decide it is cold.

[Caroline Tredez]

I think it's when Ivan kills a ceta kitten from a tree by mistake. "Out, damn spot" refers to the blood/sap of the kitten on his would-be-righteous hand. In "Cetanganda", of course, when he attends a bio-exhibition with Miles.

[voralfred]

Correct, of course!
Sorry I have been off for much too long!!!!
Next quote is yours, and you share the sherlock with Lise, our new player!

[Caroline Tredez]

Ok, so next quote :

"My apologies. Habit, I'm afraid. I'll try to be more heedful."

Who's apologizing to whom, and what for ?

[E Pericoloso Sporgersi]

"My apologies. Habit, I'm afraid. I'll try to be more heedful."

Who's apologizing to whom, and what for ?

I think that's Simon Illyan apologizing to Miles for the wrongful suspicion of peculation.

[Caroline Tredez]

Not even close, I'm afraid

[Caroline Tredez]

As I was going through past posts to update my list of "already done" quotes, I found a bonus still unanswered.
The quote then was : "And do you know yet who gets the thank-you note for this gift ?", the answer was Vorbataille in Winterfair Gifts, and the bonus was "find the possible pun in German."

Beyond a reminder, this provides my second clue after my answer to E Pericoloso Sporgersi : the current quote is not in the same universe.

The current quote being :

"My apologies. Habit, I'm afraid. I'll try to be more heedful."

[SPetty]

This is a total guess (no looking, haven't read the book in several months sort of guessing). Arkady in Horizon to Dag for.... not minding his own business?

Keep in mind that it's late here, and past my bedtime before you laugh too hard at me.